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The Great Demoralization (brownstone.org)

submitted by garbotalk

65 comments

[–] garbotalk 8 points

The blinders are off now. We see what corruption, greed and power mongering can do to a democracy in the name of "protection" when we were not protected at all. Years later, our nation is limping along instead of thriving. We don't go out much. We can't afford to anyway. We've all grieved for so many who died unnecessarily and we're sicker than we've ever been from complications from a virus and treatments we don't trust or understand.

Our kids' education fell through the cracks. Our savings took a hit and our jobs don't deserve all we've sacrificed to do them. We feel under-valued by everyone; our government, our employers, our educators, our corporate providers. We are demoralized. And the only ones seeking to lead us are two corrupt and out of touch old men with grudges. What kind of a choice is that?

The elite who sought to profit off us and consolidate power have unleashed discontent and resentment that continues to ferment every day, endangering their hold over us. We don't believe their propaganda anymore. We don't trust their experts. We don't want to invest in their corporations or buy their overpriced products. We've lost our optimism.

We won't be subjugated like that ever again. If they try, we will rebel. It's as simple as that. No wonder they're so busy building their underground bunkers. It is only just a matter of time until we reject them completely.

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop in the next year. It's not going to be pretty.

[–] Dilightful-Diviant 0 points

Got any currency ideas?

I think if we band together in an information gather sorta sense we could turn this ship around.

[–] FrontDirect7269 3 points

Any currency will be abused by greed...leading to all the same problems.

Better to ask "Got any greed reduction ideas?"

[–] Womantree1 4 points

I do. It’s called “women’s week” and apparently it works out well on other planets.

[–] Womantree1 1 points

Garbo: Explain how you tell the difference between your males and females, and how your senses differ from ours.

You: I can't believe that this subject took so long to clear through the information Spetsnaz..

Me: Do you think it took so long to clear because of the word ‘senses’? I am convinced our ANS is being manipulated somehow. Our weird periods. The moon. Pheromones. Sense of smell. Dogs sense of smell being so keen they detect Kayeen .. this is all connected.

You: To make things worse, even though dogs pick up few colors, the ones they DO pick up are yellows, blues, and violets. So they seem to see us moving in full stealth gear when humans can't. We can't explain this. It's as if there is something in a dog's brain where scent, hearing and violet become one neural function

You: As an offering to our females we give them the opportunity to kill undesirable and offensive young males of the species during the Women's Festival.
These festivals wander our world throughout the solar year, and effectively weed out the sociopaths from among our youth.
I have referred to this festival in the past as "women's week" as I had hidden something in the verbiage which sidestepped the edicts of your quarantine.

Me: this is talking about our periods? Women’s week is the week of menastration?

You: While I won't discuss my own profession for obvious reasons, let's just say that most of the social researchers of my species enjoy being bartenders the most

Me: #metoo

[–] FrontDirect7269 2 points

We should do this, but instead of killing our youths we should be allowed to remove undesirable billionaires and politicians.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

Why not both?

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

Our "Women's Week" would just be a bunch of dudes in drag wanting to get in on the killing.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

🤣🤣🤣

Ok true, but let’s assume we stop this bullshit, get sensible again, and THEN do it.

Only humans with vaginas are allowed to kill off the sociopaths/psychos

It’s more of a Naigaje thing because the women there are strong enough to accept their responsibility to society.

Not sure I can see human females being as dedicated to the point where they are willing to kill off our young

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

The reality is that our females already control breeding selection to a large degree... they just don't always accept the responsibility of properly raising the thing they "selected" for; or even "selecting" based on what is best for the future of the species. I can see how having a week like this where they have to "own up" might change that some... but it is extreme and shouldn't be necessary if everything is properly in place.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

Yea, true.

War on Drugs
War on Poverty
War on Gun Violence

All government scams that have had huge, horrible impacts. But in regard to women - have negatively influenced women’s decision making, priorities, and absolves them of consequences from their actions.

Men and women have fucked up here in letting all this bullshit happen.

Nonetheless…

Women’s week, in a healthy system, will simply be a “check and balance” against that small percentage of individuals that can do serious damage to our society. We’re not talking about women slaughtering millions of males, just the small percentage that we get that aren’t right in the head

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

The world that RD describes clearly depicts a world massively overpopulated, therefore life is of little value. Step out of line, death. Drunk in the street, death. Sneeze and too much mucus hits the sidewalk, death.

It should be a warning, not something to aspire to.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

When did he say it was overpopulated?? Just because his kind is out there crawling around buildings doing parkour everywhere?? It’s just how they are.

We don’t need to adopt a “life has little value” mentality.

We just need to adopt a “we gotta do shit right even if it hurts people feelings” mentality.

Sure, a homeless alcoholic is gonna hate getting dragged to a remediation boot camp, or a sociopath is gonna hate getting his ass whooped by girls…but in the end it makes the world better as a whole.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

You can't run an island of 10 people if you kill everyone all the time. He never said it was overpopulated, but there is a thing called logic.

There is more than 1 way to run a society.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

I don’t get the impression that his world is overpopulated at all. I just see individuals doing their part to keep it all in check. It’s just a different style of living than what you and I would be used to.

You say logic, but I think you’re just assuming.

And RD once told me that assuming makes an ass out of you and me.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

I don’t get the impression that his world is overpopulated at all.

This is literally an assumption.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

You made the claim it was overpopulated, which was an assumption.

Then you admitted RD never said it was overpopulated.

I simply was disagreeing with your first assumption.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

Literally every decision you will ever make is based on assumption.

You never disputed my logic, only that I made an assumption. I do not dispute that it was an assumption, since everything is.

Shall we continue on this merry-go-round?

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

No, I’ll drop it.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

That’s a good system.

I don’t think it’ll happen in our generation though, that’s almost as far fetched of an idea as forcibly sending all the homeless to a remedial boot camp

[–] Common-Barracuda-801 1 points

As well as this, could we not propose a "men's week" too?

The idea of a dearth of sociopaths among women is nigh on a myth now, as the pervasiveness of social media has truly emboldened, marketed and sustained such behaviours. We can also see its effects all around, as we cannot deny the plight of the modern man on account of the decisions some women have made. The modern man also needs to be accountable and responsible for their behaviours on what they mutely subscribe to - be it their own destructive behaviours or failure to discern or speak out.

Both genders should be honest on what they want and on what they don't. Else, how will we unite, live easily or find common ground and understanding in ignorance?

It would be remiss to not have both sides show what they truly value in the other gender - with gender and sex being the same in this context, might I add :)

The two festivities can also be seen as a veneration to each sex; as each can show their unique proprieties, characteristics and abilities which are unique to their own. This difference is what makes them "valuable" to each other in various complementing ways. This is not to say that these are defining characteristics of each sex, but they are what abilities they are endowed to do well in, and can strive to carve a path of use for.

The modern consensus is that a woman can do "everything" a man can - which is definitely not true. But, nor can you deny the latent (and developing) abilities in the other half of the female population which can benefit society as a whole.

Full suppression is not the answer either, I suppose - as we can see from the modern over reaction of "feminists". The latest, and to us, the most "recent" incarnation of the "patriarchy" has reaped what it's sown.

Anyways I think this is very interesting! These are my thoughts.

[–] garbotalk 6 points

The point of "women's week" among aliens like the Naigaje is to weed out young men willing to kill innocents, or allow innocents to die, without remorse or empathy. Sociopaths do not care about anyone but themselves. It is dangerous for a patriarchy to allow sociopathic men to lead them. They could start a world war for profit, for example. Or allow children to be sexually abused by rich perverts for their own amusement. We could learn from this example demonstrating how they protect their society.

Do they kill all sociopaths? No. They remove the worst of them. The rest are identified and redirected toward a career path that is less likely to harm innocents, like engineering or farming.

Can females be murderous sociopaths? Sure. But in a patriarchy, they have no path to power. Naigaje females put family interests first, society's second, and individual's last. Those who don't neither lead nor reproduce. Males won't bond with them.

Women's week is the one time when men and boys must acquiesce to women's leadership and judgment of those boys they raised and know best. They are the "village of mothers" who protect their society by providing a gauntlet of chivalry and service by which future men prove themselves. If these near-men can't suppress their egos and selfishness for one week of tasks for the betterment of society, they are weeded out.

[–] Common-Barracuda-801 1 points

Hi Garbo, thank you for taking the time to answer me. Your writeup about women’s week was very informative and made clear about some details which I only knew in passing. However, your summary has brought up more questions than answers for me. From your indirect answer (via a summary of what the Naigaje women’s week is) am I to assume that a “men’s week” would be a bad idea? Would this be your answer to my question? I don’t mind if you say I am wrong, but I am interested in what you think instead of regurgitating what you hear.

My idea of a “men’s week” was largely to suggest a proverbial mirror to be placed in front of the men’s current myopic viewport, so they too, have to come face to face with the results from the actions of their own reckoning.

I am also impressed by the Naigaje(an[?])’s resolve in moulding their social structures to their own benefit and the feats which both sexes take to uphold it. I agree with you that we should do well to emulate them. I do agree we should identify and redirect sociopaths to career paths which are less likely to harm others. However, I’m not sure if their strategies can be “completely” comparable for us (human primates) though, as evidence strongly suggests that we do not live in a “Patriarchy” (currently) and have vastly different mating strategies than Naigajeans.

I’m going to be one of those annoying pedantic keyboard philosophers here, so I hope you don’t mind and will humour me…as I said before, I find this topic very interesting so I am trying to see what can be done and what cannot.

From your writeup, the consensus is that Naigajean women can be sociopaths, but in the Naigajean patriarchy “they have no path to power over society” and are therefore irrelevant to social structures/ society in general if they do not contribute for the masses in some way. As a result, they are not attractive mates, so via natural selection and pragmatism, I assume they soon die out.

My response to this, is that evidence strongly suggests that unlike Naigajeans, human women HAVE a path to power over society. Can you name off the top of your head the countless women leaders the world has had the opportunity to have? Angela Merkle, Ursula Von De Leyen, Kamala Harris, Jacinda Arden, Liz Truss, Nancy Pelosi, Giorgia Meloni, Nicola Sturgeon…the list goes on. In fact, the very person who has been touted by RD to be a fit candidate (in r/reptiliandude) as POTUS is a woman herself – this being Tulsi Gabbard. So, it is not true that like Naigajean women, human women “have no path to power over society” and should be absolved of criticism and social reform as they too are privy to bribes and selling out for gain. The ability for them to even rise to such stations proves that their sociopathic characteristics and traits do not easily make them irrelevant to human society as female Naigajen sociopaths do. Some of the women above have been embroiled in controversy and are not paragons at all, of any kind – similar to their male counterparts.

So how can we reconcile the problem of eliminating sociopaths from positions of influence for humans who are both male and female? This problem is coupled with the rise of sociopaths in the general public which like you said – “do not care about anyone but themselves.” Moreover, our wayward culture teaches, sustains and rewards it.

If we weed out the male sociopaths on “women’s week” and care nothing for weeding out of the women, how will the female cohort know WHO or WHAT to even weed out when their resolve and critical thinking is being perpetually beaten down by the sociopathic (and banal) among them (who in the modern sense are responsible for the sociopathic “woke” cancel mob?). This is what has given additional rise and acquiescence to the Trans debate. This quote in your writeup has never been more appropriate. “They could start a culture war ~~world war~~ for profit, for example. Or allow children to be sexually abused by ~~rich~~ perverts for their own amusement.

For me, it would be nice if our society was like the Naigajean’s. Similar to them, human primates are more inclined to Patriarchal structures. But this is not the case now. If we as women, deflect from even posturing some accountability, then we will be in very dire straits indeed for the near future.

[–] garbotalk 3 points

I discussed this with RD today. He said that women who display sociopathic tendencies, like stealing someone's possession, are able to be confronted and "challenged" to a fight, much like our old dueling system. Often, an offended male will bring several matriarchs to join him in confronting the sociopath. They may "challenge" on his behalf, or witness. The sociopathic female then can "demure" offering contrition and recompense, or accept the challenge. If she accepts, the other females will beat her up, or the male will fight her. She will not win from her selfish behavior. Sociopathy is thus discouraged.

As for humanity, we are being "influenced" toward narcissism, sociopathy and selfishness by those with the same tendencies who wish to profit off of us. Think Kardashians, for example. As long as those who promote this behavior are rewarded in this world, it will not end. Social media reflects this, and the negative impacts affect our society.

THE SAME THING happened to the Naigaje, by the same aliens that plague us. History repeats itself. This is how they conquer. After their terrible war, the Naigaje changed everything about their society to avoid a repeat of this in future generations. I hope we don't have to go through that pain, but I fear we will, that it is inevitable.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

It’s a good system.

Too bad we are a species of amnesia, for now.

I bet if we lived for hundreds or thousands of years like they do, we would certainly remember and be able to come up with lasting solutions to this.

It’s easy to blame us when we have been designed with cancerous ticking time bombs in our own genes.

[–] Dilightful-Diviant 0 points

It is interesting. He needs to fall back on the women around him to secure defense. This forces Naga men to maintain good relationships with the elder women around them. As I see it anywho.

[–] Common-Barracuda-801 2 points

Ok, interesting. I was not aware of the matriarch aspect to their patriarchal system. I suppose it postures good role models for both sexes; as the male discovers what he values in a mate and female figure. It helps him maintain his faith for the fairness and righteousness of women, thereby helping him gain perspective and does not induce begrudgement and bitternesss (unlike the incel mindset, I suppose, which is a tendency in our world). The female is also reprimanded and reminded of her eventual stature and standing, wherein selfish and sociopathic behaviour will not get her far in any capacity.

[–] garbotalk 2 points

Another difference between Naigaje and us is disputes are not handled by lawyers, rather by local village matriarchs and elders.

[–] Common-Barracuda-801 1 points

Well, more reason to not be sociopathic and selfish then, as your own grandma or grandpa could be amongst the crowd! You're never going to hear the end of it from your relatives and their friends. Shamed twofold! 😂

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

Why were the comments deleted by a mod? I am late to this party.

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I also do not like defending sociopaths...in fact, I am a quite surprised to find myself in this position. Sociopathy can actually thrive if there is an intellectual baseline along with an education where logic is applied at a high enough level. Evolution gets to the same place, it is why "empathy" exists... it fills the space where the higher level logic may not be obvious when it concerns the continued existence of a species.

I agree that there are sociopaths who operate on a basis that is purely destructive to society, and society will not miss their removal... but if you agree with this then you must accept that there are also some that understand the greater logic of how "empathetic" types of actions also empower a stronger society. If you were to remove the latter types, society would suffer. How are we so basic in our judgements? "Naigaje" are not role models...stop worshiping them as such.

[–] garbotalk 1 points

Nothing was deleted.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

I can not see who you are replying to, it says "comment removed by moderator" to me. I would share a screenshot if it wouldn't mean doxxing myself.

[–] garbotalk 1 points

In this thread? It's all there. Maybe reboot? Unless it's been shadow banned from a Reddit mod without my knowledge, you should see all.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

I definitely do not, I guess the censorship creep has reached this door.

[–] garbotalk 1 points

I had to approve his comments because of his lack of posts. You should see them now.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

That was the problem, some of them are available to the "public" now.

Here I thought I was in a quarantine within a quarantine withing a quarantine...at least there is one less to worry about.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

can you post the comments from whomever you replied to with:

The point of "women's week" among aliens like the Naigaje is to weed out young men willing to kill innocents, or allow...

[–] Common-Barracuda-801 1 points

Yeah, I saw that. I was wondering too.

Yes, sociopaths can be of use but need to be curtailed. After all, they can give us perspective on both sides of the coin on what's acceptable. If everyone was good, well, God would find that incredibly boring and there would be no growth or learning.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

How many unknown innocents would some mercilessly slaughter to protect those they love? Empathy has its own dark side. This is not a simple Hero vs. Villain fairy tale.

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[–] Dilightful-Diviant 1 points

I wonder how different their definition of sociopath is from our own?

[–] garbotalk 3 points

It is the same. Those without empathy or conscience are dangerous in every society.

[–] Dilightful-Diviant 1 points

Makes sense.

It sounds almost like a witch managing a brew, a tavern owner her ale store, or Oracle her drug stash. Ownership of something that is produced and maintained over time.

An evolution of basic home making.

I wonder if being female affects land ownership with Naigaje. If they consider that masculine or feminine.

[–] Dilightful-Diviant 1 points

The festivals wonder...I wonder then if there are some women who consider the festival home.

Almost like a female Ael-Nagajie Baba Yaga.

[–] Seeker_1337 2 points

It’s a festival. A week out of the year where the females put the males through grueling challenges.

WHY would anyone call that a “home”?

I notice many of your inquiries have no sense behind them.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

Sociopaths make up one factor in the destructive behavior of wealth. I don’t think it’s necessarily that currency is, as some say, “the root of all evil”, in fact I think that’s a little silly.

Greed with always exist, so I think the best approach is to have a system similar to meritocracy, that is in charge of overseeing industries. Sociopaths job applicants are not welcome, of course.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

I'm with you on a merit based system in theory, but in practice it succumbs to the same pitfalls. How to build and maintain a society once it emerges into times of abundance is a difficult problem.

I don't get all the hate on sociopaths, sure MOST of them are bad... but not all. They are just obvious symptoms of a failed social structure and shitty education system.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

How can you “educate” the sociopath out of somebody??

I’d argue probably the only way to “cure” someone that fucked up would be to blast them with DMT or shoot them up with a high dose of psilocybin…against their will.

It’s not hating on sociopaths, it’s hating the negative effects and impact they have on our civilization.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

I have seen more people use "empathy" and their feelings to justify atrocities that are further reaching than some sociopath beating their own path through the jungle.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

Then how do you know those people aren’t sociopaths themselves??

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

So your argument is that 100% of sociopaths are bad/evil; and no atrocities were ever committed by any non-sociopaths?

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

No?? But we can do our best to limit them

I wouldn’t want a sociopath friend or wife. Just because they aren’t filthy rich and aren’t making hundreds of people’s lives shitty through corruption and selfishness doesn’t mean they’re “good”

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

We need to have a system that punishes the behavior, not the makeup of the individual. Can't you see how putting all sociopaths into the same bucket is similar logic to the Hutu's view of the Tutsi's?

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

I’m fine with letting people beat their ass, but women week wouldn’t be bad to eliminate the really bad evil ones altogether, or at least give them a choice to be exiled from the country

[–] Dilightful-Diviant 0 points

Maybe it takes rebirth. Programming from the One.

[–] Dilightful-Diviant 0 points

Okay so.

Better question is: what is better?

Information is at least better. It lets more people be greedy with their info and sell it. Spreading the greed out as people more selfishly hoard their ideas away from their consortium handlers.

[–] Seeker_1337 2 points

I believe you have trouble understanding what greed is.

[–] Seeker_1337 2 points

Information is good, but action is better.

The time is coming to shut up, or put up. Shit is gonna get real once they start rolling out the chips/Mark

[–] Dilightful-Diviant 1 points

Actionable currency then I suppose.

Like Origami that held data.

[–] Seeker_1337 2 points

Actionable currency?

Sir, what are you talking about? I don’t follow.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

I actually do have an idea that isn't a pedantic rebuttal. The concept of "Robinhooding" is actually a quite effective counter to greed in any system.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

Best course of action is probably for the US to split up - at least that will minimize the violence when SHTF.

You gotta watch out for yourself, trust nobody. Best thing you can do is prepare for what’s to come.

This ship is sinking and the time window to plug the holes is long gone, in my opinion.

We have a responsibility to still vote and enact what small change we can in the meantime - but with the understanding and foresight that some things are inevitable.

We have about 30 years left to answer the beacon, but I think not blowing our monkey brains up with nuclear bombs or WWIII is a far more pressing issue.

[–] Dilightful-Diviant 1 points

We have time.

You need to what? Fuse particles and then fuse them with differently spinning particles? It's like legos with spin characteristics as I see it.

[–] Seeker_1337 1 points

Oh cool.

I guess we can all stop worrying about this then.

Don’t worry guys, Dilightful-Diviant has it all figured out!!!

[–] Dremerdrem 1 points

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