Damn man how salty can you get? If anyone wants to read the full thread I invite them too. What I'm saying isn't out of line or far-fetched at all.

And I respect that highly. That's why I'm simply questioning and not down right calling it bullshit.

Prove to you? I'd love too. Well first off I'm here. I could be on this sub trolling, calling everyone fucking idiots, claim you are lying etc. Instead I'm here simply questioning, I'm not trying to 'trick' you into doing anything. That's one of the issues, you think my species is deceitful and mine thinks the same of yours. You're on here calling me a monkey and I'm on here having what I hope is constructive conversation with some of you. Humans are pretty fucked yeah, and we've had a hand in our own destruction which I recognize but you know not all of us are shit throwing apes. The fact that this sub even exists is proof of that, why would you be risking yourself if you didn't have even a shred of belief in us? Money? sure but even then your speaking out makes you a badass Draconian in my book. That doesn't mean I wont question what you say because I question everything. What I've been trying to get at and I've said it many times already is that someone who has even a shred of an idea to the truth doesn't necessarily have the tools to decipher your clues. I feel its redundant. I'd love for the opportunity to represent my species but that doesn't mean I want that honor to be handed to me.

And when I say organize and overthrow I'm not talking about rioting in the streets like a fucking lunatic, it's a losing battle. I'm talking about precise planning, no tyrannical regime took over by making a fuck ton of noise. They did it in quiet and in secret. Nobody is 'beating' the messenger. I'm questioning the messenger. Laws are put in place so the ones who make them think they are above them run wild and used to put beings who are thought less than them in their so called place. That's why it's funny to me that RD is following some law or restriction that prevents him from giving us something tangible to work with like he really gives a fuck. The nature of draconians is to not give a fuck because they think they are superior to most. Think I'm wrong? just read his words, feel the tone of his words. Our enemies dont follow the rules, the made the rules, working within the system is a dead concept and has been since it was thought of. A sentimate of false hope given to people who are capable of turning the tables only to eventually get beat down by the system they thought they were playing.

So as long as we agree about that let me say this. You say if we had the resolve to oust them we would but we don't so we have to work with what we have. The problem is we dont HAVE anything. We dont have the tools, that's like a chef without a knife, it's not happening. Information is a tool, planning is a tool, but instead of those who claim to be ally's to us giving us information we can use to free humanity we are instead given riddles to crumbs of tiny bits of information which we have no way of confirming if it's truth or not like its some mystical life journey, our enemies dont think this way and they are leagues ahead of us so why are we? This is what they want, they want us chasing 'tail' so to speak so we dont organize and overthrow. I am constantly getting bashed on this sub for questioning RD as if I'm supposed to outright trust a draconian. I've been trying to figure this shit out since middle school, while all of you were worried about what kids worried about I was dedicating my life to figuring it all out because I knew from the get something was wrong. Dont know why, just innate gut feeling. Now all of a sudden everyone is Plato and I'm the dumbass? I call bull. Also, a draconian who follows the law? You have to admit that's pretty comical.

The fact that you're insinuating that you need psychedelics to look around see shit ain't right is pretty basic. So many people do that shit and all of sudden they're ghandi. I've done most of it including dmt and not one of those experiences did anything relevant besides dmt. All of you are getting pretty damn salty about my questioning of RD, like the Draconians haven't had a hand in its blatant opression of humanity. You claim humanity has fucked itself on it's own but fail to mention its manipulation from its inception. So you keep "thinking outside the box" under the thumb of the cabal, or consortium you're calling it. Hell you may even get somewhere, but not before you get murdered. You know what's really "depressing"? the habit of humans to fanatically and blindly follow anyone who says something that 'kind of' makes sense.

I get it, I do. But wouldn't it make sense to get rid of the regime AND THEN worry about all this existence changing information. Because under their thumb ain't shit getting done and that's facts.

Whatever you say RD, its just that usually when someone cant back up what they say they are considered a fool. I'm not saying what you post here isn't true, but you know way more than you lead on. Withholding information basically makes you a traitor to the human struggle which you claim to back. The dollar bill has many occult symbology, we know its worthless recycled debt. We know humans are a product, what I'm getting at is you're not bringing anything new. Knowing your enemy is half the battle and we know next to nothing. I'm grateful you've shown yourself and have said what you said but it's not enough. The deck is too stacked against us.

It's not really proof of anything is what I'm saying. Post the bread, not the crumbs.

You must be joking, that doesn't prove a thing.

You mean how we want tracible proof of the consortiums existence publicly, now?

Vote them out? What a joke. And you just described the "Kayeen" aka Illuminati, deep state, etc. I'm talking about the ones who control them. You seem to be pretty damn defensive for no reason like I'm personally attacking you. I didn't ask for names, names wont help. I simply asked that you provide proof that the Consortium exists because there is no information out there about them and the only mention of them is here, so you have to understand what you say isn't exactly reliable information.

This is an information war, it's not black and white. Lots of grey area to work with. This is the only place on the net talking about the Consortium I've heard of so you have burden of backing what you say. I'm not saying I dont believe you, but humanity is neck deep in a dire situation and your philosophical "figure it out" nonsense isn't cutting it anymore. If you have the information speak up, if you have it and dont speak out you are putting humanity at a disadvantage therefore making you a traitor and we already have enough of those. Knowing your enemy is half the battle.

This is what I'm talking about. What exactly are you risking by posting proof the consortium exists? do they know you? know who and where you are? Claiming you speak truth yet cant or wont confirm with proof, then saying it's up to me on my "journey" to figure it out. We can prove other beings exist, illuminati, deep state, the evil they have committed. You claim to be against the consortium yet refuse to expose them like figuring them out is some spiritual pilgrimage, which not.

So no proof on the Consortium then?

Post proof the Consortium exists.

And what action can the human individual really take that is efficient against the most oppressive and invisible regime we know? We can talk to extraterrestrial all day but unless we are given the know how, the way is sealed. I could care less about the "Kayeen", they are on their way out. Q is helping to make sure of that. The deep state are just a fanatical cult like the JWs or the scientologists except they are under direct control and direction of the Draconian regime. To say they aren't would be blatant denial. Humans can no longer continue to accept the oppressive Draconian system, it's way of doing things, and their laws. The entire population is not going to 'wake up' and it would be foolish to think so, but there many of us who have and if we truly do have any outside faction of beings on our side it doesn't seem to matter to them. Waiting for some big drama event like 'activating the beacon' seems redundant at this point. I mean, what do they expect the individual to do? stumble upon the technology at some random point in time and 'reach out'? even though they've got us running in circles within their own fucked system striving for the illusion of comfort living and happiness while they continue to operate from the shadows and use us, profit from us, murder us, send our people to fight pointless wars? Human ignorance is the direct result of the Draconian regime and you can take that to the bank.

Humans have their flaws but there is so much disinformation mixed in with breadcrumbs of truth can you really blame people for believing in new age bullshit? I cringe when people talk about channeling beings offworld. But we have had a metric fuck ton garbage thrown on us and the response we get from other beings is "Dig your way out." The common man doesn't even have the tools to do this. We are bombarded with deceit since birth, forced to learn knowledge from text books which are blatant lies, forced slave away for a currency that is worth nothing so we can have comfort of living just to eventually die and live a meaningless life, only to be used for profit. So yeah, shame on us for spouting bigoted nonsense. There are not many of us out there who see the world for what it is, but thankfully there are some of us that do. But we are deaf voices.

Be advised that you might get a metaphorical shotgun to the face in this thread as it is a sore spot for those of us who are just sick and tired of being accused of being ‘negatively oriented beings’ and other such bigoted nonsense.

Well it's not like the Draconians have a good track record or anything. We humans get labeled with negative shit too yet its not like we weren't a slave race and manipulated from the start.

Yall got us on the bench for our own liberation yet still humans are the assholes for being stupid, ignorant, primal, etc. and we're the bigots?

If you train your dog to be an asshole it won't know any different. Same shit applies here. Draconians act so high and mighty but get butthurt when they get called negative???