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[–] Firstladytree 1 points

Well said! While reading this I was wondering if other planets have little places like Reddit? Where maybe someone in their species is like you, dropping truth bombs.

Do you think the Kayeen species have whistleblowers? Someone who constantly tells them all the bad things happening to us and how wrong they are?

[–] FrontDirect7269 2 points

Likely the path to success for the Kayeen civilization looks much like how ours is currently headed, dominated by greed. In general these type of societies can only advance if they either become highly compartmentalized (easy to keep secrets), non-individualistic (think Borg, or ant colony), or highly structured (militaristic, religious order, etc.).

They clearly do not respect the concept of universal Free Will, otherwise this situation on Earth would not exist in its current form. Even if they do have whistle-blowers, they are likely as easily silenced and marginalized as ours are here.

[–] garbotalk 2 points

I know they do.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

In your first paragraph you say that the consortium's charge was to repair this planet and uplift Humanity into modernity. Where is the source of this? Is it RD's comments?

I only ask because I have never seen that specifically said. Only that they are to return this planet to the species to which it was gifted...paraphrasing. I have never seen it specifically stated that Earth is slated for humanity.

I remember reading a quote about how the skull of the rightful owners is carved on a continent. There was an allusion to Africa being the Human skull...but Antarctica also looks very "draco". I have never seen this clarified without enough vagueness to be interpreted multiple ways. If I recall correctly there was also some mention that another made their seat in the center of consciousness (or something similar), this was said in a way that made me think Egypt...but again nothing ever specific.

If you can help me nail this down, it would be appreciated. I will dig through the RD posts again as well.

[–] garbotalk 3 points

Earth was prepared for humanity. At one point, dinosaurs were given dominion, but they maxed out without reaching their potential. Next, we were given a chance. Yes, primitive worlds are marked for the species given dominion, in our case, etched into the continents themselves so all can see. The point is to grow and become more, struggling toward modernity, albeit with a few hints and helps along the way.

So far, we were on this path when we were interfered with. As a result, the offending species were held to account for their disregard for us, exploitation and abuse of our potential as well as our world. God with His Assembly sent correction in no uncertain terms. They were given rules. These rules were bent and broken. They can blame us. We can blame them. But WE were given dominion. That we let them corrupt us and abuse us is on us. We didn't have to accept their bribes and technological trinkets. We could have thrown the bums out who mistreated us. Yet the greater responsibility lies with them. And there will be a reckoning.

The Assembly watches even now. They've left blood in the ice directly over hidden Consortium facilities as a message stating via symbol "the blood of humanity is on your hands." They're collecting evidence. They're in contact with representatives. Nothing is hidden from them.

The Consortium response is varied. Some are in complete denial thinking they can continue their plots and plans unfettered. Others are trying to quickly cover up their schemes, manufacture evidence and create fall guys to blame. The rest will quickly take their profits and hope to flee before SHTF.

The worst of them manipulate us, pretend to be us, tempt and betray us. The best of them inspire us, motivate us and encourage us.

RD has shared much with me about these things. Everything he has warned me about has come to pass. Difficult times lie ahead if we continue to let them lead us over the cliff.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

I understand that is your interpretation, but certain personal discoveries have forced me to not interpret anything loosely. The closest quote I can find in my digging is:

"Our crime was not some so-called sin as our religious leaders so unctuously shuddered... It was that we were destroying the culmination of many billions of years of evolution. In our anger and in our hatred we were annihilating an intelligent species that would one day be likened unto us.

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We were not to be the exterminators of so great a potential, as such a thing was not within our rights to do. That is why we Naigaje call this planet the House of Ankida. It is where heaven and earth met. It is where the Assembly wrested the swords out of our hands and then condemned two warring worlds to rebuild the walls they had torn down."

It would be easy to read into this as referring to humanity, but it could just as easily be dolphins or some other creature. The vagueness RD uses causes me great concern, and any attempts to get answers have only resulted in greater unease.

I have read a great deal of RD's sub, but I am not versed in everything. I was hoping there is some specific quote(s) that back up the claims. I have asked RD specifically what state they were tasked with returning the Earth to (and humanity), but I can not solicit any response that doesn't vaguely dance around answering directly.

[–] garbotalk 2 points

I am an OP here. RD and I created this forum and the Reptiliandude forum together in order to disseminate information. I have done so based on our many, many conversations over multiple years.

Beyond that, I have experience with the Kayeen prior to encountering RD. I am sharing what I know.

[–] wraith_tm8 1 points

Keep in mind those who are not Human, even partial, abide by certain laws and accords that fall well outside of any Human law and their Governments.

It is generally not in any of their interests to put themselves in a compromising situation or to break their own rules. That includes the exchange of certain information and details.

There are quite a bit of posts from RD that have without a doubt been carefully scrutinized and sanitized. Some posts have been officially approved far above him prior to letting Humans being made aware. It can take quite a bit of conscious movement and dancing to move information around such strict control. Perhaps he could tell you but is simply not allowed to say. So He speaks in metaphors, similar concepts or folds it in other places.

[–] garbotalk 2 points

You have no idea the tight rope he walks, the threats he faces, the obstacles he overcomes. Sometimes I can say bluntly what he can only say in metaphor. I am honored to have learned so much about this world and the universe from him. It is risky to disseminate information about the secrets of this world. For those who recognize truth when they hear it, they will be enlightened and prepared. We truly are here to help wake people up. After that, either humanity will take the reins for this world, or we will be left to continue to suffer from our exploiters.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

I understand this, but the fact remains that there is no certainty in the "information" presented as it is incomplete. To advise anything other than caution is foolish until all the facts are known.

It is troubling that "some" information is allowed to be shared, such as "answering the beacon" and all the details of how to do it; while other information such as the basic operating principals here on earth is guarded. This implies hidden motive that can only be guessed at with no certain answers.

From what I can glean it appears that RD needs the golden ratio pulsed out as a clear omen to fulfill a prophesy. The motives are unclear, as is the response to the golden ratio bursting out of nowhere.

His species seems to come from a "might is right" military mentality. It is very possible that fulfilling this omen in a certain way removes the protected classification on our species and opens the door for some "holy war" for his kind. It is very possible that this quarantine is the only thing protecting this last pocket of human civilization...or this could be dead wrong, but you can see how assumptions can go from one end of the spectrum to the other (save humanity, destroy humanity). Pretty dangerous game when the intent can be interpreted both ways.

Enough information has been leaked for some useful idiot to do something VERY foolish, but the information held back is the necessary component to make a wise choice.

There of course are other possibilities, such as us destroying ourselves and by default giving up any claim to Earth. Which doesn't seem to outside the realm of possibilities seeing how things are progressing.

Personally I advocate for an alternative that tries to honor the needs of all involved (Kayeen included). Admittedly not a popular opinion around here, but at some point everyone needs to stop looking back and start building something going forward. Respecting Free Will is not something you do only for those you agree with, or those more advanced than yourself.

I always wonder what it would look like if instead of perpetuating a system of lies and corruption we actually worked together to the betterment of all. What would it look like in just a decade if we started now?

There is already alien contact with Humanity, so this notion of not tainting our already tainted evolution is a weak argument at best. So rather than trying to roll things back what if instead we actually worked together? A question I likely will never know the answer to.

I guess we will all have to wait with baited breath and hope that a White Scale with something to prove really represents the best interests for all... but literally all of history as I know it says otherwise.

[–] garbotalk 3 points

Your purpose here is to cast doubt.

Noted.

Whistle blowers are seldom heard.

For all I know, you are a Siriv instructed to throw stones here.

[–] FrontDirect7269 2 points

I am just a concerned individual that likes to debate all sides of an issue before making any rash decisions. If an idea is sound it can survive criticism and debate.

I do not want to cause tension, but I do want clarity. Clarity it seems is ever elusive.

[–] ACuriousHumanBeing 1 points

As if like math. You can only discern specifics of pi with multiple reference points. Truth is much the same. Like a web.

[–] ACuriousHumanBeing 1 points

Doubt yes...as is good.

Because like, he is still engaging here and is willing to listen.

Many will think like this, so paving a path for him to understand as you do will help any who take that path here on after. ,

[–] garbotalk 2 points

I understand this, but the fact remains that there is no certainty in the "information" presented as it is incomplete. To advise anything other than caution is foolish until all the facts are known.

We have never had all the facts on anything. That is the point. We have been lied to and manipulated all along. The point of growth beyond an adversary's temptation is to recognize the wolves in sheep's clothing. We have within ourselves fractals flying into and out of us all the time bringing and returning information gleaned from the experiences and knowledge of trillions of life forms, and God Himself. Instead of grabbing the beads and trinkets offered by adversaries in this world seeking to trick us into trading away our birth rights, we must use not only our logic, but our hearts and minds. The truth is out there. Corroboration is in many places too, if you open your eyes.

It is troubling that "some" information is allowed to be shared, such as "answering the beacon" and all the details of how to do it; while other information such as the basic operating principals here on earth is guarded. This implies hidden motive that can only be guessed at with no certain answers.

He has not given all the details of how to answer the beacon at all. He has merely hinted. There is much to do.

From what I can glean it appears that RD needs the golden ratio pulsed out as a clear omen to fulfill a prophesy. The motives are unclear, as is the response to the golden ratio bursting out of nowhere.

RD needs nothing of the kind. Humanity needs to prove themselves ready to meet the minimum threshold necessary to advance beyond the stage of evolution in which our watchers having permissions here. We need to be free. Their laws require this. Those who seek to prevent us from advancing are actively sabotaging these efforts.

His species seems to come from a "might is right" military mentality. It is very possible that fulfilling this omen in a certain way removes the protected classification on our species and opens the door for some "holy war" for his kind. It is very possible that this quarantine is the only thing protecting this last pocket of human civilization...or this could be dead wrong, but you can see how assumptions can go from one end of the spectrum to the other (save humanity, destroy humanity). Pretty dangerous game when the intent can be interpreted both ways.

We are being used as product. We have the opportunity to end this abuse, or to carry on as donors of blood and body parts. While it is safer for the time being to continue to provide for the leeches by sitting in the swamp with them, I'd much rather stand up on our own and pull them off.

Enough information has been leaked for some useful idiot to do something VERY foolish, but the information held back is the necessary component to make a wise choice.

What is foolish is what is happening in this world right now, the vice, evil, selfishness in which the elite are indulged and everyone else exploited peasants thrust into wars, suffering created contagions and dying in a few decades only to be replaced by naive children tempted in the same ways. It is sick.

There of course are other possibilities, such as us destroying ourselves and by default giving up any claim to Earth. Which doesn't seem to outside the realm of possibilities seeing how things are progressing.

Our opportunity here is not a permanent one for sure. Many other species are snapping at the bit to take it from us, or continue to enjoy our labors and bodies indirectly. It is only because we have been given dominion that they don't wipe us out and take it from us. They already tried to once and were nearly wiped out because of it. So the shadow games began.

Personally I advocate for an alternative that tries to honor the needs of all involved (Kayeen included). Admittedly not a popular opinion around here, but at some point everyone needs to stop looking back and start building something going forward. Respecting Free Will is not something you do only for those you agree with, or those more advanced than yourself.

Free will is the most important law in this universe. There is subjugation, yes, and suffering. But we can choose to follow our adversaries or turn away from their temptations and cast them off of us. That is OUR choice.

I always wonder what it would look like if instead of perpetuating a system of lies and corruption we actually worked together to the betterment of all. What would it look like in just a decade if we started now?

That is what I am advocating, treat everyone like we want to be treated, the "golden rule". If we lived by that, none of this suffering would exist.

There is already alien contact with Humanity, so this notion of not tainting our already tainted evolution is a weak argument at best. So rather than trying to roll things back what if instead we actually worked together? A question I likely will never know the answer to.

There is no going back. Our evolution has brought us to this moment. We can choose to work together, but only if we have equal rights. If we want a seat at the table, not as puppets or proxies, we must gain rights over ourselves first.

I guess we will all have to wait with baited breath and hope that a White Scale with something to prove really represents the best interests for all... but literally all of history as I know it says otherwise.

We have been conditioned to fear what is strange and uncomfortable. It takes bravery and faith to step forward and recognize there is more in this life than what we have experienced thus far, and worthy mentors to show us. We cannot be pulled away by the bread and circuses our adversaries offer to distract us, or this selfie generation could be the last.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

We are on the same page Garbotalk. I am pretty sure we want identical things. I am only trying to refine my understanding of this situation.

Where we differ currently is how to achieve them. My hangup is on understanding the specific rules/laws in which aliens operate here on earth and with humanity. I also do not understand what the full effect of answering the beacon as prescribed (pulsing out the golden ratio) will do...and it seems very important.

It is very hard to maneuver effectively in a system where the rules are not only unknown, but purposely misrepresented. The fact that there are these differing interests among those pulling the strings speaks volumes about how the society above is plagued with the same issues we are here.

Every truth discovered only leads to more difficult decisions. I do not take any of it lightly, and I only hope that others do the same. When you find yourself in a system of lies, it is important to be critical of every piece of "information".

[–] garbotalk 1 points

https://www.yahoo.com/news/e-t-phone-hell-creationist-064305095.html

This kind of nonsense is worth fighting too. We cannot limit our understanding of the world and the universe we dwell in to human-centric nonsense.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

I do not know how those articles even exist...I couldn't even read that.

If we could clean up our "news" it would probably be a good start. Our population would go from miss-educated back to uneducated...it would be a start.

[–] wraith_tm8 2 points

There is no "working together" on the grand order. Not for product. Human Governments and Humans who have agreements are still considered animals or 'of-lesser' than the higher. That is because Human does not have a voice to speak as higher beings do. There are many who would very much rather keep it that way permanently.

Now on the beauty of uncertainly for information. The very nature of chaos and information is a way for all life. It is the sole reason why some information can present itself in some locations and not in others. For example, did you know Nikola Tesla had a companion? A female with blond hair and blue eyes. She has been stricken from the record and history books.

Perhaps with good reason.

Perhaps she was a Hybrid. A honeypot. A Nazi. Or an Ael'Kayeen defector and that such a scenario could have been an ancient Prometheus situation. Regardless, such information of that outcome can never be fully removed from bone, tissue, cell and fold. The nature of information is folded into many things physical and not.

If a man of such skill possessed technology to speak in real-time, or had the potential to create such, don't you think this would be brought up in a courtroom eventually? Perhaps such a situation would be investigated rather thoroughly on the grounds of sabotaging a species development. I only speak of such things as there is much level of uncertainty whether you believe this or not. What is more truth or not. It is only a mere example and serves as notice.

Like any other notice posted.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

Fair enough, but I still need more information before blowing the lid off Pandora's box. Especially considering how Jupiter reacted the last time a human meddled in serpent tech.

The selective gate-keeping on this specific information is what bothers me, not the chaotic nature of the unknown.

It also seems that this quarantine may offer us a unique opportunity if one could tease out the parameters and use the right leverage on it.

no nearer my goal, but with greater resolve...

[–] garbotalk 2 points

Do cows have leverage over ranchers, especially ranchers running around in cow suits? They live their lives oblivious to their peril, or that they have been partitioned for ideal breeding parameters for a more valuable product. They are unaware of the culling. They suffer from diseases. They are vaccinated with treatments that they don't understand as risky. They keep following the leader into the chute, unaware of where they are being driven to go.

THAT IS US!

Maybe I've not been direct enough about the peril we face with the current arrangement agreed to by our own betraying leaders! There is no upside for us with the quarantine, other than to keep us ignorant enough not to have fear of our predicament.

I want more for humanity. I think we're smart enough to face our peril head on, and strategic enough to throw wrenches in their nefarious plans for us. Perhaps we can't fight them directly well, but just look at the assymetrical fights eventually won by primitive people defending themselves, most recently in Afghanistan. They waited us out while resisting until the cost in lives and treasure was too high, and we withdrew with our tails tucked between our legs. THAT is effective resistance against an arrogant super power.

RESISTANCE gives us time to put together all the pieces; where they hide, how they manipulate, and who they bribe. They do these same maneuvers on every world they eventually control. It takes longer to infiltrate and manipulate, but with their long lives, it is no big deal. Eventually they have all the power and the local population finds out too late that they've been had.

We know what they want: control by means of biometric/financial information deployed through chipping. Chips can identify you, locate you, contain you, sabotage you, even physically harm you. They will use fear and desperation to force you under their thumb, then use governments and corporations to enact their deployment of chips. They have done this on world after world. We are next.

If we hand power over to them through cooperating with their initiatives, then the Assembly could say that we used our own free will to accept our own enslavement. That is their argument. "Humanity wants us here to provide control because they are too weak and chaotic to rule over themselves. We provide stability. Let us stay. What's wrong with profiting off our own subjects who agreed to our leadership (albeit indirectly)?"

Fortunately, some nations like the U.S. and France are good at resisting. We have experience seeking "certain inalienable rights...to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." We must resist every step taken toward our eventual enslavement.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

The difference here is that they can understand the "cows". If a cow asked me directly about its situation, even if I just overheard it stating that it wanted to know to another cow, I would see it as my duty to explain as clearly as I could. If the cow then wanted out, it would be on me to find a way to aid the cow. If the cow wanted to stay, that is its right as well.

The responsibility is on the more advanced species. This is the part that irks me, because we are directly asking and not receiving the information. It proves your point, their morals are in the wrong place.

They can justify it all they want, it is still fundamentally wrong...especially when they know that their chosen contacts do not have our best interests at heart. The plausible deniability argument is BS.

[–] garbotalk 2 points

Exactly!

Other than whistle blowers like RD, most of the rest are covering their asses. It is not in their best interests to reveal their plots to the public. They are self-serving in nature at this time. Truly they have lost their way, and for now, we are paying the price.

Soon, the tables will turn.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

Like I said, I think we are on the same page.

The only place I think we differ is I do not fully understand RD's motives and intent. He clearly wants to add our "currency" to his own, he has stated that it is on stand-by to do so.

Maybe it is as simple as giving us independence and him gaining value to his currency for the efforts... but it isn't clear. The methods and mechanisms are what I am interested in, but it seems other than logical deductions there won't be any definite answers.

[–] Firstladytree 1 points

I could be wrong, but I don’t think RD is here for us or to help us. If he is able to help us answer the beacon, this move is good for him and his kind. Some sorta redemption for things that happened long ago.

He is here for many other reasons and I think it’s very brave and noble of him to try and give us some hints along his journey.

I appreciate it.

[–] Firstladytree 1 points

Anytime I think about what beings on other planets think of us, I picture a group of them standing together, some weeping and others angry, talking all kinds of shit about us and how we kill so many babies with abortions. I would assume some even think we deserve everything that’s happening to us because we allow this to continue

[–] SystemBreakdown99 1 points

If I may…what is in Pandora’s Box here…?

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

That is an answer you only get once when you open it, and there is no putting it back.

[–] SystemBreakdown99 1 points

How do I open it…? I’m trying to catch up on this sub, and RD’s. Is it beyond that? Thank yoy

[–] FrontDirect7269 3 points

In this case, you "open" the box by answering the beacon. But once you make that call, you can't un-make that call. Who knows what will happen when we do, the ones who do aren't saying.

[–] garbotalk 2 points

I know.

  1. We answer the beacon. Everyone in the universe hears it. The further out you go, the louder it becomes because first attempters don't have a handle on modulation yet. Everyone notes there is a new species elevated to Ael status, no longer just a radio chirpping world.

  2. We immediately gain rights over ourselves. We are legally free of our watchers/predators.

  3. The Consortium will be scrambling. They will argue amongst themselves. Some will let us go and take their lumps from the Assembly for their transgressions. Others will cleave harder to us in an effort to stay. This will be a precarious time.

  4. The Assembly arrives. They investigate EVERYTHING. They take the Ael species to task over their activities here. The Consortium members who refuse to let us go will go to war with the Assembly. Some Consortium species will join in with the Assembly to fight against some of their former allies. Those Siriv who betrayed humanity will also be removed. It will be a short conflict. The Assembly never loses.

  5. The Consortium leaves. The Assembly blocks their access here and shares with us the secrets of this universe. We will have chaperoned introductions to other species. We will be taught how to build a star cannon so we can learn how to travel through the mouths of stars (sun spots) as they do from solar system to solar system. We will learn much more about instant communication across the universe. We will learn the universal rules of engagement so we don't make the mistakes the Consortium has made. Our world will be healed. Our genome will be healed as the genetic gifts taken from us by the Consortium will be returned to us. This boot camp lasts 1,000 years.

  6. The Assembly leaves and invites those who want to continue to live under their direct aegis in an Assembly world to go with them, if they choose. The rest of us who want to remain here will now have the ability to travel the universe, explore and trade. Hopefully we don't become the warring species the Consortium aliens fear us to be, seeking revenge. If we are, we may become rebooted again and have to start over from a primitive existence. We could become a bully or be peaceful. However, newly Ael species are watched carefully by everyone else who have to make room for us. We will need allies.

[–] ACuriousHumanBeing 1 points

I mean. Both the New and the Old World look like dreams of primate minds. Its funny yo. :)

[–] Irishwolfhound82 1 points

In practical terms what should we do to prepare ourselves? Share information? Protest? Form grassroots communities? Having read these posts for a while I know you speak the truth. I do appreciate both of you sharing this information with all of us.

[–] garbotalk 3 points

Live your life with purpose and morality, and teach the next generation to do likewise. Honor and recognize God's hand in all that is good, and resist those who seek to corrupt and betray us. Treat others as you want to be treated. Reach for knowledge and wisdom, not indulgence and subjugation. Reject leaders who cannot provide solutions that uplift people. They could be wolves in sheep's clothing. Truly prepare for the worst, for it is coming to our shores in myriad ways. Protect your own, and help others you can. Use your talents for the betterment of humanity, not only for profit and the acquisition of things. The things of this world are temporary, but the souls who live here have many journeys ahead. Ease their burdens; don't put a yoke on them to force them to do your will. Be open to new possibilities, for they are just out of our reach, for now. Share what you have learned.

[–] Irishwolfhound82 1 points

Thank you for your thoughtful answer. It's been on my mind to start some sort of YouTube or podcast channel. I'd love to do a Q and A and invite people on to have open discussions on these issues that affect us. I've come across quite a few disclosure type channels but none have mentioned the beacon. And the money some of them charge is quite sickening. Cough Steven Greer cough
Or maybe upload my music as it's something I decided not to pursue for a long time. Just to communicate and hopefully it may be of interest to some people!

[–] ACuriousHumanBeing 1 points

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gUJmZ5hUy84

A video i found explaining how 'Overpopulation' as we call it is just a lie. We have enough food for everyone. Just the Whore of Babylon right now is sadly wasting away.

Not to go Marxist. That path is just....naive...

But still these excuses for culling are lame. Not to mention as people get richer they generally have fewer kids.

[–] FrontDirect7269 1 points

Rat Utopia never did very well, this could be their twisted answer to that particular conundrum.

[–] Puzzleheaded-You2110 1 points

Well constructed mini-essay.

An important first point...

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/acts/27-22.htm

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To live is Christ and to die is gain. There will be no loss of life, only of the ship. For the old things have passed away...there will be no more death, and every tear will be wiped away.

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Secondly, whilst it may look grim at times...that particular One is in control. Faith is a light source for those lampstands not left under the table that is able to shine through any storm or graphene-strontium 5G-HAARP sky system structure. Our kingdoms within will excavate the coverings and masks of those involved [pole to pole], and will shed light on the nakedness that is our birthright, free from blemish--perfect in His eyes.

My stance at this time is a neutral and non-combative one. All remedy can be found in equity, and no civilization has gone to war over a math problem. The problems are informed consent, ultra vires contracts, and grammar-syntax fraud. The people are operating at a 2nd grade reading and writing level...and there are a growing number of those outside of the construct in the now-time healing it.

Now is the time to hope, share, and bring generational innerstanding to the forefront by uniting the nuclear family and dissipating the pressure of polarized thought via neutrality and the spreading of information.